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 Post subject: Card Reader Icons in W7
 Post Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:01 am 
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I have installed the CAB-200 reader into my old 630i (which came without it). The machine has a Windows 7 installation on it. The reader is detected, and after installing the Icon Manager (R166860) in Vista SP2 mode, I get the CAB-200 entry in the USB section of Device Manager and 4 drivers for the drives themselves, all beginning with "DELL". So far, so good.

Problem: All drives are listed in Explorer/My Computer/Open dialogs as "Removable Drive" with the default Windows' icon.

An attempt to find a solution with good ole Goo'le has led me to
  • Not a solution: Putting an autorun.inf file on every card.
  • Not a solution: Registry entries that assign specific icons and labels to specific drive letters (because they change a lot on this machine).

I tried adding DeviceGroup to the USBSTOR entries and just playing around with Label in there to see if it'd make a difference, but the entries seem to be ignored. I can't find any information to troubleshoot this any further, and short of writing my own shell extension (please don't suggest that), I'm at the end of my wits here. Any ideas other than the ones listed are welcome.

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 Post subject: Re: Card Reader Icons in W7
 Post Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:43 am 
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Hmm, my understanding is that custom icons for card reader drives is only possible with third-party support--i.e. the manufacturer has to add that functionality. As an example, Sony had (has?) a card reader that they tout with custom icons for each drive/drive letter of the card.

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 Post subject: Re: Card Reader Icons in W7
 Post Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:04 am 
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I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say. If it's that Dell's (Teac's actually) reader can't have icons displayed, I'm pretty sure people have been getting them in Vista. The driver for Vista installs just fine on 7, but the icons don't get displayed. What I'm trying to figure out is why. The .dll installs just fine, the registry entries are there, so there should be icons and custom labels, but, alas. I also should have mentioned that I'm using a 64-bit edition, just in case it helps.

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 Post subject: Re: Card Reader Icons in W7
 Post Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:47 pm 
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Could you post a screenshot of what you're seeing? I've never owned the Dell card reader, but I do recall some users in the past having trouble with the drivers.

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 Post subject: Re: Card Reader Icons in W7
 Post Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:24 pm 
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There is no option for me to attach a file on this forum. I guess it's because I have too few posts.

Here's my poor attempt at ASCII art to approximate what I see:

Code:
/ \
\  \ Removable Disk (G:)
 \//

/ \
\  \ Removable Disk (H:)
 \//

/ \
\  \ Removable Disk (I:)
 \//

/ \
\  \ Removable Disk (J:)
 \//


Examples of what I want can be found in the following threads on Dell's forum:
http://en.community.dell.com/support-fo ... 03877.aspx
http://en.community.dell.com/support-fo ... 88565.aspx

In both threads, people claim to have the driver just work for them in 7, but I've reinstalled it more times than I care to count, and I'm no better off for it.

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 Post subject: Re: Card Reader Icons in W7
 Post Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:00 pm 
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OK--I see what you mean (and I wish I had some nice icons like that for my Kingston FCR-HS3 card reader).

If you haven't already, something you could try is:

1. Right-click one of the drives, and select "Properties".
2. Click the "Hardware" tab, select one of the drives from the list, and click on the "Properties" button in the bottom right.
3. In the window that opens, click the "Driver" tab.
4. Hopefully, in the bottom left of the window that opens, the "Uninstall" button should be available to click on (if not, it will be "ghosted").

This is the only way I know of forcing an uninstall of the driver for a Windows hardware device. If it lets you uninstall the driver for each drive, you should then (theoretically) be able to install the correct driver with the specialized icons.

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 Post subject: Re: Card Reader Icons in W7
 Post Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:14 pm 
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Thanks for trying to help, but what would uninstalling it do for me?

Anyway, I have solved the problem. This post is mostly for the benefit of those who might look at this thread in search of a solution to the same issue.

I finally realized that I was working too hard at trying to find fault with software. So, what's next? Hardware, of course.

I plugged in the card reader into the "FlexBay" connector on the MIO board. That's where it would normally be plugged into, I believe, when you received the machine with it factory-installed. I looked at the device manager in "View devices by connection" mode and saw that the reader was connected to the Root Hub through a Generic Hub, which is part of the MIO board. It is possible that an ESA driver for Vista made this generic hub somehow transparent. I'd love someone who has the icons to look at this and tell me what they see.

Anyway, I finally was able to obtain the readme file for the driver and saw this:
Quote:
-------------------------------
Restrictions:
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To display the special drive icons, connect CA-200/CAB-200 to
the USB root hub (PC) directly. If CA-200/CAB-200 is connected
through any other generic USB hub, the drive icons become
generic Removable Disk

Well, that's inconvenient. I can't exactly remove the chip from the MIO board, now can I? So, what to do? I looked at the motherboard. No free internal USB connectors. Great. Oh, wait... Why don't I just swap around the connector for the front USB with the connector for the card reader? The cable's long enough. So I snipped the tie that held the cables together and disconnected the front USB connector. I put it into the FlexBay connector where the card reader used to be plugged in. The connector from the card reader was then connected directly to the motherboard.

Boot... Success! The icons were there and the only compromise is that now front USB ports are no longer connected to the Root Hub directly, but through a generic hub. Is that much of a disadvantage? Not for me.

I hope this helps.

@gdonner: Now that I have fixed mine, I think I can help you out with yours!

I'm assuming you're using Windows 7. If you go to Device Manager, the click View and choose to view devices by connection, are you able to find your card reader? It might be called by name, but is probably just a USB Mass Storage Device.

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 Post subject: Re: Card Reader Icons in W7
 Post Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:02 pm 
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Glad you figured it out! Got to be a relief, esp. after having hunted a while for the answer..!

To my knowledge, there's no way to use special icons with the Kingston FCR-HS3 card reader--I did contact Kingston though and suggested they consider it in a driver update; would make life that much easier for users trying to figure out which drive goes to which slot. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Card Reader Icons in W7
 Post Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:27 pm 
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Definitely a relief, though a bitter-sweet victory it is. My head still hurts from all that research.

If your card reader registers in the same way as other generic card readers, I believe we can add icons to it regardless of what Kingston said to you.

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 Post subject: Re: Card Reader Icons in W7
 Post Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:39 am 
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Well, problem is though, it's an external device, so it's not designed for an internal connection (and I can't think of an elegant way to do that). :think: If there were some way to 'hack' the drive icons in the registry, that would be a different matter...

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 Post subject: Re: Card Reader Icons in W7
 Post Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:51 am 
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I know. That's exactly the way to do it. There are some values that can be added and no need to actually have it as an internal device. In fact, I just added an icon for my old Zip drive in this manner.

Edit: P.S. It's an external USB Zip 250.

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 Post subject: Re: Card Reader Icons in W7
 Post Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:53 am 
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Yeah, I just found this (hopefully it also works with Windows 7):

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/11138 ... hange.html

...now all I need are some 256 x 256 .ico files for each of the card reader slots.

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 Post subject: Re: Card Reader Icons in W7
 Post Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:57 am 
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Well, almost. That's the one I rejected for being too letter-specific. If your drive letter changes, you will be staring at the wrong label and icon. But that's very close.

You can use icons from system dlls to make sure things work. It's trivial to then just change the name of the file once you get the icon images that you really want.

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 Post subject: Re: Card Reader Icons in W7
 Post Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:55 am 
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Though the icon issue you experienced wasn't an issue for me, what was an issue is finding the drive when I did my install.

Then the issue was getting Windows to display my reader. It fooled me into thinking it wasn't connected correctly, possibly a bad reader, cable etc.

Come to find out, Windows 7 has a default setting of hiding this drive.

1. To reveal the drive, or other hidden memory card slots, open My Computer.

2. Press the "Alt" on your keyboard to show the toolbar drop down box at the top of the screen.

3. Click the Tools option.

4. Go to Folder Options under Tools.

5. Click on the View tab.

Image

6. Uncheck the “Hide empty drives in the Computer folder” option.


Maybe this will save someone else the time and grief I had finding mine.

ETA-Mods: If you need me to move this or make it a separate thread, just let me know. Thanks.

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 Post subject: Re: Card Reader Icons in W7
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Hello

How do you do this for Windows 8?

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