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 Post subject: $500
 Post Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:33 pm 
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Hi Guys. I am a new member who has been advised to post my question in this forum (hopefully I have the right forum)? My question is this:

What would you guys do if you had $500 to spend on my existing system? I am looking to keep my 630i "future proof" for a good few years to come (the old girl is 4 years old now)! You can hopefully see that I have already made a few modifications but I am being advised to replace the mobo, cpu & memory. I am not very confident about replacing the mobo & cpu (never tried anything like that before). If you guys have any guides, tips or ideas that would be awesome. I live in the UK and we don't have newegg.com (the site that most people have advised me to use for new parts) so if you could use Amazon UK as a reference site that would make it easier for me.

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ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 Mobo
Intel 3rd Gen. Core i5-3570K (4 x 3.40GHz, Ivy Bridge, Socket 1155, 6Mb L3 Cache) CPU (OC'd to 4.2GHz)
Logitech G35 7.1 surround sound Headset
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Perixx PX-2000 Illuminated Gaming Keyboard
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Modified front case fans (2 x Aerocool Shark 12cm Quad LED 15 Blade Fluid
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 Post subject: Re: $500
 Post Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:49 am 
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Hmm; if it were me, here's what I would go with (would put you slightly over at a grand total of £334.82 or ~$529.02):

ASRock Z77 Extreme4 (£101.98) - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Z77-Extreme4-Mo ... 410&sr=8-1

8GB G.Skill DDR3 Sniper (£44.21) - http://www.amazon.co.uk/G-Skill-PC3-149 ... 533&sr=8-1

Intel 3rd Generation Core i5-3570K CPU (£165.14) - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Generatio ... 655&sr=1-1

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO (£23.49) - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-H ... 725&sr=1-1

The G.Skill RAM is recommended if you go with an ASRock motherboard--from what I've read, it's just more likely to work better than other brands of RAM.

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 Post subject: Re: $500
 Post Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:26 pm 
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You are a real "diamond geezer" (as we say in the UK)! I can't belive that you have gone to all that time and trouble to help me out with this. I am obviously going to take a look at the specs. etc. and I will let you know in due course what I decide.

Many, many thanks.

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8GB G.Skill DDR3 Sniper Memory
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ACER S271HL LED HD 27inch Monitor
ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 Mobo
Intel 3rd Gen. Core i5-3570K (4 x 3.40GHz, Ivy Bridge, Socket 1155, 6Mb L3 Cache) CPU (OC'd to 4.2GHz)
Logitech G35 7.1 surround sound Headset
2 x SCSI Hardrives (1 x 256Gb Crucial M4 SSD & 1 x 600Gb WDC Blue WD64 00AAKS-75A7B)
Perixx PX-2000 Illuminated Gaming Keyboard
Gigabyte M8000X Laser Gaming Mouse
Scythe Kaze Master Pro Ace Manual Fan Controller[/size]
Modified front case fans (2 x Aerocool Shark 12cm Quad LED 15 Blade Fluid
Dynamic Bearing Fan-Blue)


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 Post subject: Re: $500
 Post Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:45 pm 
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chriskaz wrote:
You are a real "diamond geezer" (as we say in the UK)! I can't believe that you have gone to all that time and trouble to help me out with this. I am obviously going to take a look at the specs. etc. and I will let you know in due course what I decide.

Many, many thanks.


You're welcome! :D "Diamond geezer"--I love it! (but now I feel even older) :lol: Just kidding. Gotta add that one to my repertoire of slang. :) But truth is, just happy to help others. So many others here have been patient with me and answered my many questions; our resident gurus especially!

When I first joined my630i, I would never have considered a full-blown upgrade, but over time, you learn that it's not as scary or impossible as you thought, and it's really rewarding (and fun) to do the work yourself!

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 Post subject: Re: $500
 Post Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:42 pm 
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The term "Diamond Geezer" can be used for persons of any age, I certainly didn't mean to cause offence (quite the opposite)! Anyway, I have been thinking about your suggestions about upgrading my pc. I also watched a video on youtube which showed a guy building a new computer from scratch. He made it look pretty easy and I think that I will probably have a go at upgrading my pc myself. Would you know if I am going to have to replace my existing case fans and/or the existing power supply unit? I am also wondering about the front panel. Do you know if I will be able to use the existing card readers, led;s etc. with the mobo you have suggested? I guess that without people like yourself sites like this wouldn't exist, and that would be a great pity.

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8GB G.Skill DDR3 Sniper Memory
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ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 Mobo
Intel 3rd Gen. Core i5-3570K (4 x 3.40GHz, Ivy Bridge, Socket 1155, 6Mb L3 Cache) CPU (OC'd to 4.2GHz)
Logitech G35 7.1 surround sound Headset
2 x SCSI Hardrives (1 x 256Gb Crucial M4 SSD & 1 x 600Gb WDC Blue WD64 00AAKS-75A7B)
Perixx PX-2000 Illuminated Gaming Keyboard
Gigabyte M8000X Laser Gaming Mouse
Scythe Kaze Master Pro Ace Manual Fan Controller[/size]
Modified front case fans (2 x Aerocool Shark 12cm Quad LED 15 Blade Fluid
Dynamic Bearing Fan-Blue)


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 Post subject: Re: $500
 Post Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:58 am 
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:D No offense! I'm rather "chuffed" actually. :)

If you keep the Master I/O Board, then you don't need to replace the case fans, since it provides the extra power used by the higher wattage fans. You could also keep the existing power supply, but if you're investing in new hardware, I would suggest replacing it with something a little more robust for the long-term (reason being that if an older power supply dies, it can take other hardware with it). I ditched the MIO Board as I had a personal vendetta with "The little Monster® that Dell created." :)

Existing card readers and front panel LEDs, etc. should all work fine with the new mobo.

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 Post subject: Re: $500
 Post Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:30 pm 
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I guess that you have picked up the word "chuffed" from a fellow Brit? If I can be even more of a pain than I have already can I ask you of you could recommend, or suggest, a new power supply for my upgrade?

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8GB G.Skill DDR3 Sniper Memory
Windows 7 Home Edition (64 bit) SP1
ACER S271HL LED HD 27inch Monitor
ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 Mobo
Intel 3rd Gen. Core i5-3570K (4 x 3.40GHz, Ivy Bridge, Socket 1155, 6Mb L3 Cache) CPU (OC'd to 4.2GHz)
Logitech G35 7.1 surround sound Headset
2 x SCSI Hardrives (1 x 256Gb Crucial M4 SSD & 1 x 600Gb WDC Blue WD64 00AAKS-75A7B)
Perixx PX-2000 Illuminated Gaming Keyboard
Gigabyte M8000X Laser Gaming Mouse
Scythe Kaze Master Pro Ace Manual Fan Controller[/size]
Modified front case fans (2 x Aerocool Shark 12cm Quad LED 15 Blade Fluid
Dynamic Bearing Fan-Blue)


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 Post subject: Re: $500
 Post Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:21 pm 
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chriskaz wrote:
I guess that you have picked up the word "chuffed" from a fellow Brit? If I can be even more of a pain than I have already can I ask you of you could recommend, or suggest, a new power supply for my upgrade?


The psu really depends on how many gpu's you plan on using as these tend to eat up the amps.

850w is overkill if you plan on sticking with a single gpu but also leaves you lots of headroom and room for sli down the road if you get into that.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMPSU-8 ... 42&sr=1-21

If you plan on only having one gpu then 650w is plenty:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-TX650V2 ... 015&sr=1-2

Corsair has some of the best psu's in the industry...

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 Post subject: Re: $500
 Post Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:58 pm 
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I guess that you have picked up the word "chuffed" from a fellow Brit? If I can be even more of a pain than I have already can I ask you of you could recommend, or suggest, a new power supply for my upgrade?


Actually, South Africa--but much of their slang came from Britain. :)

+1 on deando's PSU recommendations--Corsair makes some solid hardware!

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 Post subject: Re: $500
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:38 pm 
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After giving this much thought & deliberation, and with some great advice from yourself and deando I have just placed an order with Amazon. Apart from the advice you have very kindly given to me I have also looked at various reviews. and videos. and finally plucked up the courage to try an upgrade! I have also decided to try to carry out the work myself (wish me luck). I have finally decided on the following pieces of kit:

ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 Mobo
8Gb G.Skill DDR3 Sniper memory
Intel 3rd Generation Core i5-3570K CPU
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
Corsair CMPSU-850HX professional series 850W Power Supply

What do you think? It has cost me more than $500 I origionally planned but hey, you can't take it with you (as they say)! If you can give me any tips and/or advice on what to, or not, to do when I carry out the work (hopefully this coming weekend) I will, as always, be most grateful.

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XPS 630i (silver) case
EVGA GeForce GTX 760 SC ACX 2GB GDDR5 Graphics Card
8GB G.Skill DDR3 Sniper Memory
Windows 7 Home Edition (64 bit) SP1
ACER S271HL LED HD 27inch Monitor
ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 Mobo
Intel 3rd Gen. Core i5-3570K (4 x 3.40GHz, Ivy Bridge, Socket 1155, 6Mb L3 Cache) CPU (OC'd to 4.2GHz)
Logitech G35 7.1 surround sound Headset
2 x SCSI Hardrives (1 x 256Gb Crucial M4 SSD & 1 x 600Gb WDC Blue WD64 00AAKS-75A7B)
Perixx PX-2000 Illuminated Gaming Keyboard
Gigabyte M8000X Laser Gaming Mouse
Scythe Kaze Master Pro Ace Manual Fan Controller[/size]
Modified front case fans (2 x Aerocool Shark 12cm Quad LED 15 Blade Fluid
Dynamic Bearing Fan-Blue)


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 Post subject: Re: $500
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That set of hardware should serve you well! Although it probably won't match exactly, the attached PDF document can help with the step-by-step process of upgrading; just be sure to consult the ASRock Z77 manual for the right pin-out numbers and cabling, etc.

Also, if you don't plan on removing the Master I/O Board, then just skip that section in the PDF since there will be no need to touch any cabling for your 630i's front/back case LED lighting. Just be sure to plug the Master I/O Board's USB connector (that went to the 630i mobo) to one of the Z77's on-board USB connectors.

As always, take your time, don't hesitate to ask any questions, and be sure to post pics when you're done so we can drool over the new hardware! :)


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 Post subject: Re: $500
 Post Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:07 pm 
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That pdf will be a great help I am sure. Hopefully, it will go ok but be sure that I will be back here if it doesn't! I have another question for you "which method do you prefer for applying the therml paste to the cpu"? I have seen so many different suggestions for example:
Spreading it over the whole surface of the cpo with a credit card, or with a razor blade. Using your finger inside a plastic bag to spread it over the whole cpu. Don't spread it at all but just use a rice/pea sized drop & let the weight of the master cooler spread it for you. Apply it in a thin line around the edges of the cpu. Which one, if any, of these methods would you use? I will take some pics of the before & after but I am not sure how to attach pictures to these posts? Also, I am not sure that I will have the heart to take a picture of my beloved 630i actually in my dustbin (only joking) :)

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EVGA GeForce GTX 760 SC ACX 2GB GDDR5 Graphics Card
8GB G.Skill DDR3 Sniper Memory
Windows 7 Home Edition (64 bit) SP1
ACER S271HL LED HD 27inch Monitor
ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 Mobo
Intel 3rd Gen. Core i5-3570K (4 x 3.40GHz, Ivy Bridge, Socket 1155, 6Mb L3 Cache) CPU (OC'd to 4.2GHz)
Logitech G35 7.1 surround sound Headset
2 x SCSI Hardrives (1 x 256Gb Crucial M4 SSD & 1 x 600Gb WDC Blue WD64 00AAKS-75A7B)
Perixx PX-2000 Illuminated Gaming Keyboard
Gigabyte M8000X Laser Gaming Mouse
Scythe Kaze Master Pro Ace Manual Fan Controller[/size]
Modified front case fans (2 x Aerocool Shark 12cm Quad LED 15 Blade Fluid
Dynamic Bearing Fan-Blue)


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 Post subject: Re: $500
 Post Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:45 am 
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I used the vertical line down the middle of the CPU, as recommended by the Arctic Silver manual (see photo). Spreading it out manually creates bubbles that can cause some overheating problems (someone did a great job illustrating this on YouTube).

I've had great cooling results with the vertical line--idle temps in the mid/upper 20s (Celsius) and rarely ever going above 50, even when playing BF3 or other intensive games. Your EVO should provide at least as good, if not better, temps than the Hyper 212+.


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 Post subject: Re: $500
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Ok. I'll give it a go. My mobo & cpu cooler arrived today & I am just about to unpack them & take a look at the manuals etc. I am really hoping that the rest of the kit is going to arrive tomorrow so that it will give me the weekend to try putting it all together (I really don't want to rush it). I must admit that part of me is excited, but I am also slightly nervous! I will, of course, let you know how it goes. Any clues on how to attach pictures to these posts so that I can send you before and after shots?

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XPS 630i (silver) case
EVGA GeForce GTX 760 SC ACX 2GB GDDR5 Graphics Card
8GB G.Skill DDR3 Sniper Memory
Windows 7 Home Edition (64 bit) SP1
ACER S271HL LED HD 27inch Monitor
ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 Mobo
Intel 3rd Gen. Core i5-3570K (4 x 3.40GHz, Ivy Bridge, Socket 1155, 6Mb L3 Cache) CPU (OC'd to 4.2GHz)
Logitech G35 7.1 surround sound Headset
2 x SCSI Hardrives (1 x 256Gb Crucial M4 SSD & 1 x 600Gb WDC Blue WD64 00AAKS-75A7B)
Perixx PX-2000 Illuminated Gaming Keyboard
Gigabyte M8000X Laser Gaming Mouse
Scythe Kaze Master Pro Ace Manual Fan Controller[/size]
Modified front case fans (2 x Aerocool Shark 12cm Quad LED 15 Blade Fluid
Dynamic Bearing Fan-Blue)


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At the bottom right of the "Quick Reply" message editor below, click on "Full Editor"--you'll see an "Upload attachment" section with a "Browse..." button that lets you select the photo(s) to upload. Just be sure to click the "Add the file" button for each file you want to add.

Good luck with the upgrade!

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Just spent the last few hours reading the manuals, I know these are going to sound like dumb-ass questions but:
1). Do I install the new psu before I install the new mobo, or is it the other way around?
2). Will it be best to uninstall the Nvidia ESA software before I begin the upgrade?
3). Will I have to re-install Windows 7 after I have installed the new kit (I am not replacing my hard drives)?
4). Do I install the software that came with the new mobo before or after the upgrade?

Sorry to keep bothering you!

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XPS 630i (silver) case
EVGA GeForce GTX 760 SC ACX 2GB GDDR5 Graphics Card
8GB G.Skill DDR3 Sniper Memory
Windows 7 Home Edition (64 bit) SP1
ACER S271HL LED HD 27inch Monitor
ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 Mobo
Intel 3rd Gen. Core i5-3570K (4 x 3.40GHz, Ivy Bridge, Socket 1155, 6Mb L3 Cache) CPU (OC'd to 4.2GHz)
Logitech G35 7.1 surround sound Headset
2 x SCSI Hardrives (1 x 256Gb Crucial M4 SSD & 1 x 600Gb WDC Blue WD64 00AAKS-75A7B)
Perixx PX-2000 Illuminated Gaming Keyboard
Gigabyte M8000X Laser Gaming Mouse
Scythe Kaze Master Pro Ace Manual Fan Controller[/size]
Modified front case fans (2 x Aerocool Shark 12cm Quad LED 15 Blade Fluid
Dynamic Bearing Fan-Blue)


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No problem--that's why we're here. :)

1) The PSU is the "deepest" item in your system, meaning old mobo out, old PSU out; new PSU in, new mobo in.

2) See question 3, but the Nvidia ESA software isn't required with your new system; installing the latest Nvidia graphics card drivers are all you'll need to be able to use/activate any ESA-hardware (gurus correct me if I'm wrong on this!)

3) Yes; the new mobo has drastically different drivers and software that requires a clean reinstall of Windows 7. Make sure you get the latest drivers from the ASRock website (don't use the ones on the CD, as they are probably outdated), and again, be sure to do a "clean" install; not an "upgrade"--those two choices will be given to you during the install; you won't miss them.

4) After the upgrade. See the "Installing Windows 7 64-bit" (~ page 5) section in the PDF I sent you--that has a list of the suggested install order for the software/drivers, etc.

I hope this helps!

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Yes, it does help. I have all the new parts now except for the new memory cards. I am really hoping that they are going to arrive tomorrow so that I can begin the task in hand. I am currently downloading the latest drivers for my new mobo from the ASRock website (that's going to take all night I think)! I will (hopefully) be able to talk to you again once the upgrade has been succesfully completed?

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XPS 630i (silver) case
EVGA GeForce GTX 760 SC ACX 2GB GDDR5 Graphics Card
8GB G.Skill DDR3 Sniper Memory
Windows 7 Home Edition (64 bit) SP1
ACER S271HL LED HD 27inch Monitor
ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 Mobo
Intel 3rd Gen. Core i5-3570K (4 x 3.40GHz, Ivy Bridge, Socket 1155, 6Mb L3 Cache) CPU (OC'd to 4.2GHz)
Logitech G35 7.1 surround sound Headset
2 x SCSI Hardrives (1 x 256Gb Crucial M4 SSD & 1 x 600Gb WDC Blue WD64 00AAKS-75A7B)
Perixx PX-2000 Illuminated Gaming Keyboard
Gigabyte M8000X Laser Gaming Mouse
Scythe Kaze Master Pro Ace Manual Fan Controller[/size]
Modified front case fans (2 x Aerocool Shark 12cm Quad LED 15 Blade Fluid
Dynamic Bearing Fan-Blue)


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gdonner wrote:
No problem--that's why we're here. :)

1) The PSU is the "deepest" item in your system, meaning old mobo out, old PSU out; new PSU in, new mobo in.

2) See question 3, but the Nvidia ESA software isn't required with your new system; installing the latest Nvidia graphics card drivers are all you'll need to be able to use/activate any ESA-hardware (gurus correct me if I'm wrong on this!)

3) Yes; the new mobo has drastically different drivers and software that requires a clean reinstall of Windows 7. Make sure you get the latest drivers from the ASRock website (don't use the ones on the CD, as they are probably outdated), and again, be sure to do a "clean" install; not an "upgrade"--those two choices will be given to you during the install; you won't miss them.

4) After the upgrade. See the "Installing Windows 7 64-bit" (~ page 5) section in the PDF I sent you--that has a list of the suggested install order for the software/drivers, etc.

I hope this helps!


Greg has given you great advice, but I see one thing missing that may be obvious to some, but given your early statements about not having prior experience in building or upgrading any computers, I thought I should add that this bit of suggestion. You need to prepare for your transfer to the new parts and clean install of Windows by running the transfer utility that will copy all your user data and re-install it for you on the new system. Maybe this info is contained in the PDF, which I have not yet read, so if it is, just ignore my above suggestion and follow the PDF instructions.

I just did the same when upgrading from Windows Vista Ultimate to Windows 7 Home Premium and making a few changes to my own XPS 630i.

I also want to thank you chriskaz for this thread, because I too am ready to upgrade my MOBO, RAM, Hard Drives, & CPU(s), so I will most likely be buying the same gear that you have just purchased and installing it within the next 7 to 10 days, depending on how fast the parts can get here. I recently upgraded my video card, removing the SLI twin nVidia 9800GT's with a new Radeon HD 7850 and have been enjoying a triple monitor display with three 20" DVI LCD's I already had, so my desktop resolution is now 5040 x 1050. It makes playing Guild Wars 2 a whole different experience when viewed on three monitors side by side.

My build will be slightly different than yours, and more expensive, as I want to push the envelope a little further and go with an Intel i7 CPU (or maybe a high end AMD CPU) and a 2nd Radeon HD 7850 w/CrossFire-X, which will require me to go with a larger PSU.

My question to Greg and others reading this thread is this: Will the 850watt PSU recommended in this thread be large enough for the i7 (or AMD) CPU and 2nd video card that I am planning on using in my build.

Thanks in advance for any further advice, and for what has already been given in this thread.

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P.S. If any of you are playing Guild Wars 2, please let me know, as I am always looking for partners to play in that game. If you are not playing Guild Wars 2, why not! It is a beautiful game and has play features for all kinds of different game play, so if you are a competitive Player vs Player type, they have many different tournaments for you to participate in. If you are a team player, they have hundreds of thousands of players in the World vs World area to join a team of others. If you are more laid back (like me) and like to just explore and kill monsters at your own pace while searching through every nick and cranny of the world map, then the Player vs Engine mode is for you, but you can get lonely and desire a bit of company killing the worst of the baddies, so it is nice to have a friend or two around to help out from time to time, which is why I am inviting more of you to take a look at Guild Wars 2 and see if you want to join me in some exploring, and maybe some "World vs World" team play as well. Sorry for the long P.S. off topic. I hope the moderators don't delete all of it.


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Sorry to hi-jack this thread again, but before I spend the "Big Bucks" for an Intel CPU and Motherboard, could anyone here give me recommendations that are known to work in my XPS 630i case for one or more AMD CPU and Motherboard combination's?

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My question to Greg and others reading this thread is this: Will the 850watt PSU recommended in this thread be large enough for the i7 (or AMD) CPU and 2nd video card that I am planning on using in my build.


Yes, my understanding is that 850 watts should be enough (though gurus please correct me if I'm wrong)--the great thing about newer cards (besides being more powerful) is that they also use less power than earlier generations, so I suspect the 1kW PSUs are more for maxed out tri-SLI/CrossfireX systems.

I'm not familiar enough with AMD hardware and mobos to give you any suggestions, but the newegg.com user reviews of AMD mobos should be a good place to start:

http://www.newegg.com/AMD-Motherboards/ ... der=RATING

BTW, +1 on the reminder about transferring data and settings files off the system before starting the upgrade! A great thing to do while waiting for hardware to arrive. :)

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Okay, after doing some shopping around, here is what I am considering buying to upgrade my XPS 630i with:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813128514

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820233143

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819103961

This is just a start and next month I will add a 2nd Radeon HD 7850, a twin pair of 1tb, or 2tb 6.0gb/s SATA hard drives, and a 850watt to 1000watt PSU to power the extra current required for the 2nd video card.

Doing this in two phases will require me to tear down the system twice, so I can get the new PSU installed, but I can't afford to get all the parts this month due to other bills that have come up.

I would appreciate opinions on the above linked items and my thinking that I might go with AMD CPU's, instead of the more expensive Intel i7 CPU. I am willing to listen to all "Pro's" and "Con's" of each choice.


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I think I am writing to myself here, but will keep rambling anyway. Just found out that none of the AMD motherboards support PCIe3.0 yet, so that puts a big damper in my thoughts about saving some money by going with an AMD 8 core build, instead of an Intel Quad Core i7 system.

Back to the drawing board!

Edit: Probably will just stick with the ASrock mobo suggested earlier and maybe go with the Intel i5, if the i7 is out of my price range. I am also considering doing the upgrade in two phases as noted above, so I can get what I really want. Half this month and half next, or just collect the parts and do all of the installation next month when the last parts arrive.


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chriskaz wrote:
Yes, it does help. I have all the new parts now except for the new memory cards. I am really hoping that they are going to arrive tomorrow so that I can begin the task in hand. I am currently downloading the latest drivers for my new mobo from the ASRock website (that's going to take all night I think)! I will (hopefully) be able to talk to you again once the upgrade has been succesfully completed?


Ok. My memory cards didn't turn up! However, this has allowed me to do a bit more research.I have now also ordered a new SSD hard drive for my upgrade! This is, hopefully going to be the last item that I purchase for the near future :crazy: Once all of my new kit arrives I will begin the upgrade & let you know how I get on.

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I wonder how much power using an SSD hard drive saves, when compared to a traditional platter spinning hard drive. Probably not enough to make a difference in the decision to keep, or replace my PSU if/when I choose to add a 2nd Radeon HD 7850 video card.

As Greg stated earlier, it is not worth the risk of getting all these new replacement parts and then have the existing 4 to 6 year old PSU fail on you and have it take out several, or all of the new components with a power spike, or some other electrical disaster. (I use a good battery-backed UPS to minimize, or eliminate any electrical problems from my power company)

Thinking out loud again, but maybe these thoughts will be useful to someone.


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