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 Post subject: Re: Swapping Mobos in the XPS 630i: Some Tips for Newbies
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 Post subject: Re: Swapping Mobos in the XPS 630i: Some Tips for Newbies
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Ok, I bought an XFX 790i Ultra (supposedly not refurbished, but new old stock, we will see). My main question is on Memory. I know I have to use DDR3, but can I use DDR3 Tri-channel or does it have to be Dual-channel. There are better deals on the tri-channel memory. Also looking for recommendations on a new cpu Heatsink / cooler for some moderate overclocking (would like to get my Q9450 2.66 up to around 3.4). Thanks.

Also should I get PC3 1600 or PC3 1333 (10666)...thnx again.


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Ok, according to Toms Hardware, I can use either dual or trichannel. A dual channel board will only use two of the channels. Now, how about a recommendation on either 1333 or 1600 memory. Also still looking for a recomendation for a new cpu heatsink/fan. Thnx.


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elimister wrote:
Ok, according to Toms Hardware, I can use either dual or trichannel. A dual channel board will only use two of the channels. Now, how about a recommendation on either 1333 or 1600 memory. Also still looking for a recomendation for a new cpu heatsink/fan. Thnx.


If you are positively sure that you will not be going beyond an OC of 3.4GHz, I strongly recommend you to find some high quality 1600MHz memory or 1800MHz memory. 790i mobos will get you the best performance from OC'ing the cpu at a 1:1 ratio with the memory. High quality 1600MHz memory can be OC'ed to about 1750MHz. In your case, for a 3.4GHz OC, you want your memory to be capable to reach 1700MHz. If you can find memory like Corsair XMS3 DHX, Patriot Viper SLI or Gskill. For moderate OC'ing, buy a Xigmatek Dark Knight or Baldur.

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 Post subject: Re: Swapping Mobos in the XPS 630i: Some Tips for Newbies
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Thanks for the info. But you have brought more questions to mind. I read here (somewhere) that the 790 boards were picky about memory , as in if I were to use higher than 1600 memory, I'd be limited to using two slots. Is this also true if overclocking that 1600 to 1700? In this hardware level is there any true perfomance boost to having 8 gigs of memory instead of just 4? I mean real improvement, I know more ram helps some. If not, then what could i actually overclock my Q9450 to on air, 3.6, 3.8? Thanks.


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elimister wrote:
Thanks for the info. But you have brought more questions to mind. I read here (somewhere) that the 790 boards were picky about memory , as in if I were to use higher than 1600 memory, I'd be limited to using two slots. Is this also true if overclocking that 1600 to 1700? In this hardware level is there any true perfomance boost to having 8 gigs of memory instead of just 4? I mean real improvement, I know more ram helps some. If not, then what could i actually overclock my Q9450 to on air, 3.6, 3.8? Thanks.


You can use up to 8gb of 1800MHz (w/ bios update). You are limited to 4gb (2x2) of 2000MHz. If only using 2 sticks of ram, install in the black memory slots for better performance. 8gb of ram only benefit you if you're using apps that takes advantage of it. There is a performance increase in gaming but not enough to justify the need for 8gb of ram. If you plan to OC that cpu to 3.8GHz for 24/7 usage, I highly recommend you invest in the Prolimatech Megahalems cpu heatsink and setup for a push/pull cooling. A Xigmatek DK or Baldur can handle a 3.8GHz OC but your core temps will be far more better with the Megahalems.

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 Post subject: Re: Swapping Mobos in the XPS 630i: Some Tips for Newbies
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Sorry I haven't posted here in a while, life got busy all of a sudden. I did finish my upgrade. As I had previously stated, I bought an XFX 790i Ultra motherboard. I then traded a buddy of mine all my old stuff, the mb, ram, heatsink, a free 775 mb that someone gave me and the Q9450 for his QX9650 (I also threw in a case and ps that I had laying around). The new system is as follows:

QX9650 3.2ghz running at 4.0ghz
XFX 790i Ultra MB
8 gb of Mushkin Redline (1600) running @ 7-7-7-21
Cooler Master Hyper 212 plus cpu heatsink in a push/pull config
Asus 24" VW246H flat panel
ATI 6970 2gb video card (replaced my 9800gt sli)
G.Skill Sniper 120gb SSD
WD Caviar Black WD2001FASS 2TB

All in all, a pretty nice little system. For a $30 heatsink, the Hyper 212 works really nice. The second fan for push/pull was $7. Actually was able to get the system to run @ 4.4 ghz but not 100% stable. Could probably do it if I wanted to do alot of tweaking, but @ 4.0 its blazing fast. Win 7 Pro 64 rates CPU and Ram @ 7.7 each and my video @ 7.9. Also the G.Skill Sniper scored a 7.8. Next I think I want to get another 630 case and build an i7 / X58 machine. If anyone knows where I might pick up a Black 630 case with or without the PS, drop me a post. Want to start the next project soon.


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 Post subject: Re: Swapping Mobos in the XPS 630i: Some Tips for Newbies
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Good job. Glad to see you got it done.

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 Post subject: Re: Swapping Mobos in the XPS 630i: Some Tips for Newbies
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I have a sort of noob question, I have a stock xps 630 q9650 4gig samsung ram, 2x 500 gb in raid0 bfg gtx260 , I'm looking to do mobo swap from a 650 chipset to 720 or 730, my main concern is will my q9650 from Dell work with 720/730 lga775, not really looking to buy a new CPU.


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I personally would stay away from those chipsets. I believe they have integrated graphics, but I'm not too sure. Guess you could disable. It's getting close to impossible to find a decent LGA775 mobo these days. If I was you, I would just stick with what you have for right now and later on, when you can upgrade your cpu, get an i7 processor. Just my opinion.

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Just thought I would add a note about what may be a confusing header to some people on some motherboards: the "PWR_FAN" connector. The ASRock P67 Extreme4 includes this 3-pin header, and I was wondering what it was used for, since the manual says nothing about it.

Turns out that some power supplies include a 3-pin fan connector cable with the other standard cables. It only has the 1 RPM wire for monitoring fan speeds, so the only thing it is good for is seeing what RPM your power supply fan(s) is running at; you can't control the speed.

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Greetings,

I am using a 630i w/SLI GTS240's and E8400 CPU. I have been happily chugging alone with 2 SSD's in raid-0 for the past year. Sadly one of these little 30gig SSDs crashed so I went out and bought a nifty 128gig that can do over 500MB/sec by itself (I was only getting about 220MB/sec out of my 2 SSDs in raid - where they should have put out ~400). Sadly the solo 128 appears to be bottlenecked ~133MBsec which makes me a sad puppy. I guess it's time to upgrade my motherboard. :(

Could anyone recommend a good motherboard or even what to look for? I would like to just purchase a MB and move everything over with limited complications - CPU/heatsink/video/ram. I could probably go as high as $200 but I am price sensitive - the cheaper the better but stability is top priority.

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You might want to read some SSD threads here, and that should give you a good idea:

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My question really isn't about SSD's. The stock 630 just isn't intended to be used with SSD's. It works but doesn't have AHCPI(?) and bottlenecks your transfer rate.

I'm really looking for a motherboard recommendation that will support the E8400, and the 2 GTS240's in SLI as well as my stock 4x1 memory.

Do I want ATX? MicroATX? I guess I could replace the memory/HSF and still come in well under $200.

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Quatra wrote:
My question really isn't about SSD's. The stock 630 just isn't intended to be used with SSD's. It works but doesn't have AHCPI(?) and bottlenecks your transfer rate.

I'm really looking for a motherboard recommendation that will support the E8400, and the 2 GTS240's in SLI as well as my stock 4x1 memory.

Do I want ATX? MicroATX? I guess I could replace the memory/HSF and still come in well under $200.


Those threads were to inform you that if you want to get the best out of your SSDs, you need to upgrade to either the Lynnfield or Sandy Bridge platform. If your budget is $200, the best thing you can do for your stock rig is save some more ca$h and upgrade the graphics card.

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Exactly what I was hoping he would find in the readings.

Good performing LGA 775 motherboards are VERY hard to come by, as they are really outdated. Basically you are trying to put a supercharger (SSD) on an old clunker (outdated LGA 775 motherboard). Intel is officially discontinuing support and products for LGA 775 next year I believe. So it would not be a wise decision to put money into something that is being discontinued and already outdated.

Like Doc mentioned, if you want the performance out of your Solid State Drive and bottleneck relief, LGA 775 is not going to help you. Either P67/Z68, X58, X79, or the new coming Z77 next year are the choices you should be aiming for.

Just save up your $$$ if you are on a budget and make a proper investment. We want to move forward in technology, not backwards. :D

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So you're saying my E8400 CPU is never going to see gigabit SSD raid-0 xfers because I'm stuck with a lga775 MB?

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Basically, yes. :D

98% of LGA 775 motherboards do not have SATA controllers capable of running SSD's properly.

Some boards with intel chipsets can handle them better, but they are still not optimized for it, and they are also discontinued.

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Quatra wrote:
So you're saying my E8400 CPU is never going to see gigabit SSD raid-0 xfers because I'm stuck with a lga775 MB?


If you want a LGA775 mobo that will allow you to get some of that SSD performance (the performance will not be like it should if using Lynnfield or Sandy Bridge), I recommend you buy the Gigabyte EP45-UD3P but it will be used and you will have to bid for it on Ebay... http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R4 ... Categories

Honestly, I strongly recommend you be patient, save more money ($400 min.) and upgrade to a basic Sandy Bridge rig ;) Click Here & Read Post #2 :D

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Hi drBlahMan,

I appreciated your "How to swap the motherboard of a XPS630i" thread for newbies.
But something is not clear in my mind: the screws.
You said to double check, and my current motherboard from Dell is fixed with 10 screws as intended.But in the aftermarket, the new Z77 atx board are with 9 screws.
In the read this before to post, I can see the author said that all the ATX form factor should match in the case.
So could I put a 9 screws motherboard in my XPS630i case ?

I would like to upgrade my XPS 630i with:

intel I7 3770k processor
MSI Z77A-GD65 motherboard (9 screws)
8go GSKILL ripjaws PC3-17000
I will keep my hardrive( but I got some problems with the local backup software from dell, I am unable to do the backup, the software got an error ), the case and the power.

I would like to reuse the current airflow system( what do you think about it ? )

thank you for helping

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ekzo wrote:
So could I put a 9 screws motherboard in my XPS630i case ?


Yes you can :thumbup:

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I would like to reuse the current airflow system( what do you think about it ? )


You can but that's a personal choice. Those 38mm Delta fans might be too powerful to connect to the mobo for control capabilities. After you swap for the new mobo, you will not be able to control the front fan speed from the MI/O panel board.

Regarding your choice of hardware, you will need to buy a new cpu heatsink.

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drBlahMan wrote:
Yes you can :thumbup:

thank you that's a good news if I can use the components I listed.

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Those 38mm Delta fans might be too powerful to connect to the mobo for control capabilities. After you swap for the new mobo, you will not be able to control the front fan speed from the MI/O panel board.

Oh I was not aware about that. So what would you suggest instead ?


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Regarding your choice of hardware, you will need to buy a new cpu heatsink.

If you have one in mind you're welcome, there is so much choice.
Termalright HR-02 macho ?

changing the fans and the heatsink was not in my budget so if you know the better performance/price components, it will help me :)

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ekzo wrote:
Oh I was not aware about that. So what would you suggest instead ?


Either buy a fan controller (Go to the XPS 630i Chassis Mod Archive to see it) or invest in different 120mm fans.

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If you have one in mind you're welcome, there is so much choice.
Termalright HR-02 macho ?


Macho is too tall. You do not want to use a heatsink that is no taller than 160mm.
Do you plan to do some serious OCing :?:

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drBlahMan wrote:
Either buy a fan controller (Go to the XPS 630i Chassis Mod Archive to see it) or invest in different 120mm fans.

I have seen your mod with the centered 2x120mm fans, and I love it :clap: .
I think I will try that, with 2 Xigmatek XLF blue(they stay performant): XLF-F1256. They are with PWM right ?

At the rear, I will use a 92mm fan, but it seems that 92mm fans with blue led are hard to find, so maybe I will choose a black one.

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Macho is too tall. You do not want to use a heatsink that is no taller than 160mm.
Do you plan to do some serious OCing :?:

Oh thank you. You did a lot of explanation in your "Swappin' CPU Heatsinks for 630i Stock Mobo: Tips for Newbies" thread and I forgot that :oops: Ok I will keep this size in mind. Maybe I have a problem with the big characters and pink color :lol:

About the oc, as I am a newbie, I will start with the automatic clock(so a light oc) from the msi board. But when I will feel my config is a bit outdated, or maybe before if I know enough on how to proceed, I will push the limits. But I think I will learn quicly with all the ressources and experts people on this site :cool:

For the cpu cooling, I read a lot of reviews, and it's the hell, the press never said the same thing. You can see that the fan is loud or the cooling is bad in a review and not at all in an other.
I will take a look only at the < 160mm fans in the reviews now. Let's go !
New headache incoming... :crazy:

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OS: windows7 home premium

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Feel free to suggest, advice
Goal: Games | video editing | OC | durabilty | evolution

Case: XPS630i
Mobo: MSI z77A-GD65
Mem: Gskill ripjaws PC3-17000 2x4go
CPU: intel ivy bridge 3770k
GPU: gigabyte gtx670 oc
HDD: External eSata LaCie 1TB, internal WD caviar blue stock
OS: windows7 home premium


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 Post subject: Re: Swapping Mobos in the XPS 630i: Some Tips for Newbies
 Post Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:14 pm 
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What about this one ?
Zalman CNPS 10 extreme

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Current build:
Case: XPS630i
Mobo: stock
Mem: stock 2x2go
CPU: quad core Q8300 stock
GPU: gigabyte gtx670 oc
HDD: External eSata LaCie 1TB, internal WD caviar green stock
OS: windows7 home premium

Future build
Feel free to suggest, advice
Goal: Games | video editing | OC | durabilty | evolution

Case: XPS630i
Mobo: MSI z77A-GD65
Mem: Gskill ripjaws PC3-17000 2x4go
CPU: intel ivy bridge 3770k
GPU: gigabyte gtx670 oc
HDD: External eSata LaCie 1TB, internal WD caviar blue stock
OS: windows7 home premium


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