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 Post subject: Returning my 630, building my own. (update)
 Post Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:23 am 
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Well, decided to just get rid of my 630 instead of put up with problems.
Decided I'd build my own computer.. Never built one before.
So far here's what I'm thinking of getting, the stuff I listed I am fairly certain that they are the components I will get so far (but always might have a reason to change something).

Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811146029
MoBo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813131296
CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819115017
Memory - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820220227
GPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814121258
HDD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822136131
CD/DVD Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6827151154
PSU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817139006

Does this look like it will work? Any potential problems with this setup I should know about? Pretty much anything a noobie should know :P

Any and all help is much appreciated ^-^


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 Post subject: Re: Returning my 630, building my own.
 Post Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:38 am 
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All looks good so far, the only suggestion I have is to get as high a rated PSU as you can afford, this would give you good future proofing if you decide to CrossFire etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Returning my 630, building my own.
 Post Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:58 am 
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Okies, thanks for the info, that's what I was thinking :P


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 Post subject: Re: Returning my 630, building my own.
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My older brother just rebuilt/upgraded his own system, and he found the following website very helpful (I'm sure they're not unfamiliar to some):

http://arstechnica.com/guides/buyer/guide-200805.ars

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 Post subject: Re: Returning my 630, building my own.
 Post Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:33 pm 
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As for a good case, I always like them bigger rather than smaller. I have an older Antec Sonata that I really really like. While I just bought a cheapo case for a computer for my kids, I think that in retrospect I should have sprung the extra $75-90 for the Sonata. The cheapo case really sucks. The Sonata I saw came with a 500W PSU, but I presume that other PSU's could be had in the same case.

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 Post subject: Re: Returning my 630, building my own.
 Post Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:51 pm 
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Thanks for the link, will check it out later, and thanks for the info about cases, don't want a cheep one but don't want to be spending like 200 bucks either, looking for under $150 preferably about $100ish (USD) Want something that will last and is decent for air cooling and roomy for upgrades (probably will buy a separate PSU unless there's a case with a decent one) don't want to break the bank, but still need a decent computer since I'm going into college from graphics/animation and like to do photo editing and re-encode anime a lot (which is why I liked the quadcore cpu, amazing having a video do a 2pass encode in under 20 mins when my old laptop would take 2 hours for the same thing) I'm not a huge gammer, but I do play the occasional game or 2. ^-^ Thanks everyone who has contributed some advice.


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 Post subject: Re: Returning my 630, building my own.
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Kawaii Momo-chan wrote:
...cases, don't want a cheep one but don't want to be spending like 200 bucks either, looking for under $150 preferably about $100ish (USD) Want something that will last and is decent for air cooling and roomy for upgrades (probably will buy a separate PSU unless there's a case with a decent one) don't want to break the bank,...


Then it sounds like the Antec Sonata might be a good match for your needs. 500 watt power is probably going to be enough unless you have dual power hogging video cards that might be more for a gamer than a worker.

Here are some links:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811129024

http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=15137

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 Post subject: Re: Returning my 630, building my own.
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Thanks, will look into that case then later today. ^-^


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 Post subject: Re: Returning my 630, building my own.
 Post Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:27 am 
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Okie, I have some new questions, going to edit my first post to reflect them.


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 Post subject: Re: Returning my 630, building my own. (update)
 Post Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:59 pm 
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Kawaii Momo-chan wrote:
might want to CrossFireX ASUS EAH4870/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 4870 in the future.

That sounds fine.

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Total: ?$780

Well, this is a fair amount less than the 630, and now you are starting to get limited in what you can get and how many extras you will get.


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CPU - (Might buy elsewhere as to ensure getting a G0 step SLACR) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819115017

In another thread here, we brushed on the advantages of maximum MHz CPU clock vs. Maximum # CPU cores with fewer clocks. Since most software is not written to take advantage of multiple cores, you still will be better off with more MHz for any ONE task, but with multitasking, having a CPU dedicated to each one could be good. I might be tempted to get a CPU and MOBO and cooling that would allow me to try to OC a quad core up to the speed of the currently fastest dual core.

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Memory - (going to buy 2 kits so I have 4GB) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820227169

This is always a tradeoff between the fastest/most OC'able vs cost. You have to look at your free cash to decide.


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HDD - (might get a 500GB model instead if my total prices get too high) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822136131

I have never been sad that I got a BIGGER HDD. I always get the largest I can before the prices for a larger one start to go up exponentially (at the "heel" of the curve)

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CD/DVD Drive - (Not sure on this, but don't CD/DVD drives require a driver to run? If so, how do I install an OS with no drivers?) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6827151154

This is a SATA drive. Just remember the issues the 630 had with a SATA optical disk. NVidia chipsets seem to have had trouble with the scenario of a SATA optical and HDD combined. I like the small SATA cables compared to big P-ATA, so I might be tempted to use an Intel-based MOBO. You probably do not need special drivers for the optical disk.


As for the MOBO, these get rather expensive for current high performance models. I start by picking a brand that I trust since most brands will make a variety of MOBOS to suit all needs and preferences. Personally, I like ASUS. Buy one that is NOT an OEM package unless you are SURE that the extra stuff you get in the retail version is really unnecessary to you. I lean toward Intel chipsets too. I think that the ASUS P5Q family is decent. I don't think you would go wrong with one.

As for a Power supply. I think that anything over 500W is likely to be fine, but if you might do with dual big video cards, then 750W might be better. Be sure to get one with ample SATA and 6-pin video card power connectors. Most (all?) of the good PSUs will have the right ATX power connectors. I would not pay extra for PSUs with modular cables ("to reduce clutter"). I just tuck the unused cables out of the way and out of the airflow.

-Tony


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 Post subject: Re: Returning my 630, building my own. (update)
 Post Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:14 pm 
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Thanks for the detailed answers, I was going to go for an Intel based board and was leaning towards ASUS since I have heard good things about them. All the info is helpful, and thanks again for the help everyone. I went for the q6600 because I do video editing and stuff like that, and will be doing graphics and animation in college, and to be a bit future proof. Thinking about spending a few bucks less on 2x2GB sticks instead of getting 2 kits of 2x1GB sticks, would make upgrading to 8GB a bit easier in the future.


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 Post subject: Re: Returning my 630, building my own. (update)
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Well, decided I would like to get a full tower case so I don't have to worry about clutter or something being to big, and for future upgrades etc.. Was looking at this case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811146029
and this case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811146038 And I was looking at this for a power supply - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817139006.

Not sure which case would be better to fit a HD4870 (and possibly CrossFireX it with another HD4870 as a future upgrade) And what's the difference between a mid tower and full tower? I looked at the dimensions and the 2 cases are about the same (the mid tower is a tad bigger actually)


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 Post subject: Re: Returning my 630, building my own. (update)
 Post Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:39 pm 
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Your ideas look good to me. When I was bying a case recently, I had to pay special attention to the location of the front panel USB jacks. Many of them are situated LOW. Of couse most of these cases will be sitting on the floor, so USB jacks situated HIGH on the front of the case will be most convenient and less likely to get broken.

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 Post subject: Re: Returning my 630, building my own. (update)
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oo Yeah that's a good idea to think about, thanks for that ^-^


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