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 Post subject: Stick it out or build a new PC?
 Post Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:22 pm 
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Ok guys, most of you know I just recently got a new Alienware as an exchange from Dell. Lately, I have been having problems with it (as usual with Dell), and I was considering my options after talking with a couple members here.

What do you guys think I should do:

Either stick it out with this Alienware (and Dell Tech Support)

Or.........

Sell it, and build my own rig with the money I get from it.

I have tried replacing the motherboard in the system with an EVGA X58 Classified (great board btw) to alleviate the problems with the stock board, but that made some things better and other things worse. All issues were fixed, but I lost compatibility with the MIO Board, which I cannot control fans, lights, and vents. So what is the point of the case? LOL.

Also I looked at possible PSU upgrades for the future, and that looks like it is out of the question as well, since Dell uses multiple "proprietary connectors" in the system for the MIO Board and interior lighting.

So what you guys think? Any suggestions? Ideas? All info is greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

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 Post subject: Re: Stick it out or build a new PC?
 Post Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:28 pm 
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Sell & build.

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 Post subject: Re: Stick it out or build a new PC?
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:40 am 
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I think I am going to do just that. I have already been looking at the parts I need to complete a build with the parts I already have, such as the motherboard, SSD's, cooler, etc.

So this is what I came up with so far, depending on how much $$$ I get for the Alienware (estimating around $3000 ish or more on ebay)

Motherboard - EVGA X58 Classified 3-Way SLI (Already have it)
RAM - Undecided (looking to get a nice 2000MHz set w/decent timings)
CPU - Either i7 975 or i7 980x
Heatsink - Prolimatech Mega Shadow w/Scythe S-Flex Fans in Push/Pull (Already have it)
Power Supply - Corsair 1000HX
Hard Drives - 2x OCZ Vertex Turbo SSD's in RAID 0 (OS and main applications) + 2x 750GB Seagate Barracudas in RAID 0 (Storage) (Already have them)
Graphics Card(s) - Either ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB or Nvidia Geforce GTX 480
Sound Card - Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium
Case - Undecided

I still need to find a nice case and some ram. Does this look pretty good? Any suggestions on anything?

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 Post subject: Re: Stick it out or build a new PC?
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:00 am 
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Thermaltake level 10 maybe? ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Stick it out or build a new PC?
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:05 am 
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billybigfoot wrote:
Sell & build.



+1 :D

If you're not happy with your current setup then go for it :!: I had a feeling you needed to scratch that "itch" :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Stick it out or build a new PC?
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:13 am 
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billybigfoot wrote:
Thermaltake level 10 maybe? ;)


I was actually looking at this, but $850 bucks for that case just.....hurts, especially in the wallet. LOL. Its almost the same price as the 975 and 980x. I was thinking maybe the Corsair Obsidian 700D 0r 800D. How about any input on those cases?

deando2008 wrote:
billybigfoot wrote:
Sell & build.



+1 :D

If you're not happy with your current setup then go for it :!: I had a feeling you needed to scratch that "itch" :lol:


Yea, I knew that this would eventually come as well, being a Dell PC. I wasnt expecting it to be perfect, but it really has issues that I just dont want to deal with anymore. LOL.

It is not that the hardware isnt up to par or anything, just a lot of compatibility issues and the lack of customization and overclockability.

Custom Built is always the way to go. I will sell this thing ASAP and get to work on the new system.

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 Post subject: Re: Stick it out or build a new PC?
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:22 am 
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That case should defenitly do the trick :) Has lots of room and great cable management. Also gets good reviews.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductRe ... %29&Page=2

Price is a little high for my taste but you get what you pay for :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Stick it out or build a new PC?
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:25 am 
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For $100 - this is what I have my eye on . . .



http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product ... ct_id=2970

EDIT: Free shipping and no tax with Amazon - WHOOHOO!

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 Post subject: Re: Stick it out or build a new PC?
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deando2008 wrote:
That case should defenitly do the trick :) Has lots of room and great cable management. Also gets good reviews.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductRe ... %29&Page=2

Price is a little high for my taste but you get what you pay for :wink:


You know what, I will probably go with one of these, if I get enough $$$. I have heard nothing but good reviews about it. The price is a bit high, but compared to the Thermaltake Level 10, it is cheap. LOL. I do love the Level 10 though, just too expensive for a case IMO.

davbow wrote:
For $100 - this is what I have my eye on . . .

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product ... ct_id=2970


I was actually going for this too, but I really want a side window on the panel to look at all the goodies inside. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Stick it out or build a new PC?
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:34 am 
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I hear CM has a side window in the works . . .

I wish the CM came in a full tower version as well . . . then there would be bee's knees everywhere . . .

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 Post subject: Re: Stick it out or build a new PC?
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m3th0d1c4l wrote:
CPU - Either i7 975 or i7 980x


Really? Like there is any other choice, 980x all the way!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Stick it out or build a new PC?
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LOL, I hear ya there. I just need to make sure I can get enough money. And the other factor is finding them. They are out of stock practically everywhere.

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 Post subject: Re: Stick it out or build a new PC?
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lol

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 Post subject: Re: Stick it out or build a new PC?
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Nice find Davbow!

A few of the other places I found were a bit cheaper than that, but if I get enough money from the PC, I will surely go for it to help support the website. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Stick it out or build a new PC?
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Well, I say go cheap in any case!

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 Post subject: Re: Stick it out or build a new PC?
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LOL. Well, actually I cant find one anywhere else really. Newegg will only sell it as a combo with a new motherboard, which I dont need. Microcenter has the best price for just $999.99, but there is no Microcenter around me... :(

But anyway, it doesnt look like anyone really wants to buy the Alienware, even for the cheaper price I set it at......so I am just thinking about modding the sh1t out of this as much I can for now.

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 Post subject: Re: Stick it out or build a new PC?
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m3th0d1c4l wrote:
But anyway, it doesnt look like anyone really wants to buy the Alienware


That couldn't be due to Alienware now being owned by Dell now could it?

Of course not, what was I thinking. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Stick it out or build a new PC?
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billybigfoot wrote:
m3th0d1c4l wrote:
But anyway, it doesnt look like anyone really wants to buy the Alienware


That couldn't be due to Alienware now being owned by Dell now could it?

Of course not, what was I thinking. ;)


LOL. Naaaaahhhhhh....it couldn't be. ;)

I would really rather use this case anyway, but it is just that I cannot put my own PSU in there. It has this odd 10 Pin connector like the XPS 730x did for the MIO board. So, again, no lights, fans, or vents.

I can mod it, but I dont want to risk screwing up a $250 Corsair 1000HX PSU. See the thing is, the MIO board uses the +5VSB power cable from the main 24 Pin connector, and I dont want to splice into that wire. It would also be very messy.

So, I am just brainstorming on what to do.............

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 Post subject: Re: Stick it out or build a new PC?
 Post Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:24 am 
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Hey Method,

Here's what I think you should do, due to the fact you may never get all your $$ out of you current pc (the alien!)

Strip her down! Take all the goodies out of it, cpu, gpu's, hd's, ram. Then throw in a used Intel 920, a single hard drive, a nvidia 9800 gt or somthing similar, & 3gig of ram. Then, you may be able to sell it for less but break even and you'll have some of the more expensive items/cpu, gpu's/hd's already from the Ailenware PC. With the lower price point on the striped pc you should be able to hit a wider market area IMO.

Just an idea ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Stick it out or build a new PC?
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Hmmm, very good point. I like that idea.

But the thing I was worried about with that was, that warranty will be an issue for the customer. Everyone has asked me about the warranty while it was for sale. So putting in other parts wouldnt be a good idea if I sold it with a warranty. It might also be a problem if they tried to buy a warranty later and need a part replaced. LOL.

I might actually just keep the CPU. GPUs, Sound Card, and the disc drives, and sell the rest that way too. Im still brainstorming, but good idea Dean.

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 Post subject: Re: Stick it out or build a new PC?
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m3th0d1c4l wrote:
deando2008 wrote:
That case should defenitly do the trick :) Has lots of room and great cable management. Also gets good reviews.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductRe ... %29&Page=2

Price is a little high for my taste but you get what you pay for :wink:


You know what, I will probably go with one of these, if I get enough $$$. I have heard nothing but good reviews about it. The price is a bit high, but compared to the Thermaltake Level 10, it is cheap. LOL. I do love the Level 10 though, just too expensive for a case IMO.

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For $100 - this is what I have my eye on . . .

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product ... ct_id=2970


I was actually going for this too, but I really want a side window on the panel to look at all the goodies inside. :D



I can't recommend the Corsair 800D unless you'll be going back to full water cooling. I've been reading a bunch of reviews for this case and a lot of complaints were not enough airflow. So water cooling GOOD, air cooling BAD for this case.

Now for the warranty issue, how bout sell everything that came with the alienware and just get all new hardware? I guess except for the SSD or HDD that has your information, everything seems replaceable.

If you're able to sell the system for let's say around $3000, you should be able to build a monster with that budget.

Breakdown:

980x - 1050 w/tax
x2 gtx 480 - 1050-1100 w/tax


leaves you with 800-900 for the rest of the system and i know you still have other parts that didn't come with the Alienware that you're able to reuse.

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 Post subject: Re: Stick it out or build a new PC?
 Post Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:20 am 
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Well, I have actually decided to just keep the Alienware. I have made some upgrades, but I havent had time to update my sig, or benchmark anything.

The system wont sell for much. The economy is too shitty atm. I see prices of everything going down daily, and I dont want to lose what I have at a low price. I tried selling it on ebay a while ago, and it wouldnt even sell for $2500, which IMO was low enough already. On top of that, I just cannot get over the functionality and beauty of this case. It is far superior to any case I have owned.

I am now saving up for the 980x, just need a bit more $$$. LOL. I gotta keep up to JDookie somehow. :rofl: :bow:

So this is what I have so far in the system:

Core i7 975 (upgrading to 980x)
Alienware motherboard
ATI HD 5970 2GB (almost have another one)
SoundBlaster X-Fi Titanium
Alienware 1100W PSU
6GB DDR3 1333MHz (trying to find compatible XMP memory, 1600Mhz+ for the mobo without getting sleep issues)

Ill probably have a 980x in a few weeks if everything goes as planned. :D The motherboard swap wont work, as the lights, fans, and vents are inoperable without the motherboard. The MIO needs to detect an Alienware board to work (which sucks). :x

I am not one for the GTX 480 right now. Until Nvidia can fix their Fermi cards with the revisions, I wont be purchasing them. Plus, I think the HD 5970 will last me a long time, especially once i get another one in CrossfireX. I am quite happy with ATI this time around, and they have delivered on their end for once.

I will sell the i7 975 afterwards to get some $$$ back, and probably spend some of it on a good set of RAM. I am probably going to go for a 12GB kit this time. (4GB x 3). My system only has 3 dimm slots, so I might as well get 12GB now instead of wasting money on a 6GB kit and again on a 12GB later on. I am not in a hurry with the RAM, but I am looking for a good deal.

Once I get everything completed, I will post up benchmarks, pics, and everything else.

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