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 Post subject: ATI Radeon CrossFireX compatibility list
 Post Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:11 am 
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Sometime ago, the following two ATI Radeon cards were listed as the only ones supported by Dell in the 630i CrossFire/CrossFireX configuration (each graphics card BIOS being modified/flashed by Dell at the factory to work with the Nvidia 650i motherboard):

ATI Radeon HD2600 XT 256MB
ATI Radeon HD3870 X2 512MB

I know there are new ones out there, so if you have an ATI Radeon card not listed above that you confirm works in a CrossFireX configuration in your 630i, please add it to this post, and I'll build a list for the Collective (drivers and firmware page).

Thanks!

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 Post subject: Re: ATI Radeon CrossFireX compatibility list
 Post Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:44 am 
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 Post subject: Re: ATI Radeon CrossFireX compatibility list
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:14 am 
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Well, CrossFire was working with my dual 4850's when I first received my 630i (factory installed). Since then, I formatted/reinstalled Vista x64 SP1, and now XP x64 SP2, and no luck. The second card shows in the CCC as "Disabled adapter"; no idea how to enable it.


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 Post subject: Re: ATI Radeon CrossFireX compatibility list
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:11 am 
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d0gztar wrote:
Well, CrossFire was working with my dual 4850's when I first received my 630i (factory installed). Since then, I formatted/reinstalled Vista x64 SP1, and now XP x64 SP2, and no luck. The second card shows in the CCC as "Disabled adapter"; no idea how to enable it.


I know it doesn't make sense, but you have to:
Un-install the ATI drivers.
Load the Dell drivers, (crossfire should then be enabled and the second card is no longer dis-abled)
Un-install the Dell drivers
Then load the ATI drivers...

Thats how I got mine to work when I reloaded from DVD... after loading/unloading the latest ATI drivers half a dozen times and having the second card ALWAYS be disabled...

I did reboot after each un-install...

Hope this works for you too!!

Please let us know.

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 Post subject: Re: ATI Radeon CrossFireX compatibility list
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:48 am 
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spacecase,
If this works, you're my hero! Now I just have to find special Dell Catalyst drivers for XP x64...maybe I'll look in the Workstations drivers.


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 Post subject: Re: ATI Radeon CrossFireX compatibility list
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:56 pm 
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I know it doesn't make sense, but you have to:
Un-install the ATI drivers.
Load the Dell drivers, (crossfire should then be enabled and the second card is no longer dis-abled)
Un-install the Dell drivers
Then load the ATI drivers...

Thats how I got mine to work when I reloaded from DVD... after loading/unloading the latest ATI drivers half a dozen times and having the second card ALWAYS be disabled...


Spacecase (and BBF too in another post),

Thanks for the tip on this--I've added it to the Collective's CrossFireX installation instructions.

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 Post subject: Re: ATI Radeon CrossFireX compatibility list
 Post Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:55 pm 
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So far, no luck. It seems Dell doesn't supply any XP x64 drivers with their "special magic" that somehow makes it all work. The only thing I can think to do (to try to force it) at this point is to get the Dell drivers for Vista x64 and the default ATI driver of the same rev and try to do a comparison of the directories/.inf files to find out what's different. If I get it working I'll post back what I find out.


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 Post subject: Re: ATI Radeon CrossFireX compatibility list
 Post Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:49 pm 
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I just got my XPS 630i this week and yup I'm disappointed. I have two ATI 4870's in Crossfire and hate the fact that the motherboard will not run those lanes in 16X. They are bottlenecking this system.

I have installed Vista Business 64 bit and when I loaded the newest ATI 4870 video drivers I lost crossfire capability. The ONLY way to get crossfire to work with this system is with the Dell supplied video ATI drivers. The ATI catalyst version does not matter, it’s the actual video card driver from Dell that makes the crossfire function. I find this disappointing in that this video card is stuck in the past with a dell driver.


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 Post subject: Re: ATI Radeon CrossFireX compatibility list
 Post Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:18 am 
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I'm using the latest drivers from ATI and CrossfireX appears to be working.

(Also, I'm pretty sure this motherboard wouldn't run the cards in x16 even if it weren't altered by Dell. Usually, it's x16 for one card, or x8 for two cards.)

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 Post subject: Re: ATI Radeon CrossFireX compatibility list
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@kdbrier,
It will work, but you can't uninstall the Dell provided driver, you just load the new Catalyst over the top (well last time I had it working at least in Vista x64, I think I loaded the Catalyst 9.2...but it has been a while).

I didn't have much luck figuring out where the "magic" is that Dell is putting in that freaking driver. I got what appeared to be the same version catalyst and Dell driver but the file sizes for almost all of the files are different (though the dates are similar). I loaded Vista x64 HP back on my second partition, maybe I'll have another go at it. I really wanted to get it working in XP though.... :x


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 Post subject: Re: ATI Radeon CrossFireX compatibility list
 Post Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:01 pm 
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It will work, but you can't uninstall the Dell provided driver, you just load the new Catalyst over the top (well last time I had it working at least in Vista x64, I think I loaded the Catalyst 9.2...but it has been a while).


Are the installation instructions for this in the Collective wrong then? It currently states that the user needs to uninstall the Dellified ATI driver, with the idea that one or more Dell 'hooks' are somehow left behind unscathed e.g.:

1. Uninstall ATI's display drivers.
2. Install Dell's version of the display drivers.
3. Uninstall Dell's version of the display drivers.
4. Reinstall ATI's (latest) display drivers.

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 Post subject: Re: ATI Radeon CrossFireX compatibility list
 Post Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:02 pm 
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d0gztar wrote:
@kdbrier,
It will work, but you can't uninstall the Dell provided driver, you just load the new Catalyst over the top (well last time I had it working at least in Vista x64, I think I loaded the Catalyst 9.2...but it has been a while).

I didn't have much luck figuring out where the "magic" is that Dell is putting in that freaking driver. I got what appeared to be the same version catalyst and Dell driver but the file sizes for almost all of the files are different (though the dates are similar). I loaded Vista x64 HP back on my second partition, maybe I'll have another go at it. I really wanted to get it working in XP though.... :x



Right click on your display settings and tell me what the Ati driver date is please.


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 Post subject: Re: ATI Radeon CrossFireX compatibility list
 Post Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:50 pm 
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So this list is only 3 cards long?

I just got two ATI 5830s and 5770s to run Crossfire in my XPS 630. Now I'm reading on here that it is unlikely that this will ever work, ugh! I got one of the 5830s working great last night, but I got all of the cards (cheaply) with the express purpose of using them with Crossfire.

The resource collective isn't clear for ATI cards:
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Note: the installation instructions and driver link below include everything needed for single or multiple GPU installations in a CrossFireX configuration.

Uninstall any existing drivers before installing new ones.
Download the latest ATI display driver from the link below:
Catalyst Drivers & Software (Windows 7 version shown)
Install the driver you downloaded.
Restart Windows.
If you have dual graphics cards installed, CrossFireX should automatically be enabled when you log back into Windows.


That seems to indicate that Crossfire works with whatever ATI card you want to run. This doesn't mention anything about the magic Dell drivers with special BIOS info.

But then the "PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING" thread with "General XPS 630i info:" says the following very bad news:

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5. The stock XPS 630i motherboard cannot run Crossfire with aftermarket ATI Cards, such as XFX, HIS, Sapphire, etc. Only ATI Cards supplied by Dell with their VGA BIOS for the 630i along with Dell's ATI drivers from the 630i system driver page will work. A single ATI/AMD graphics card (GPU) will work in a 630i stock motherboard.


My cards are all Sapphire.

So which of these are correct? Is the resource collective updated and correct and I don't have anything to worry about because ATI has fixed their drivers to work on Dell XPS 630's? or is the other post right about all non-Dell ATI cards not being able to be used in Crossfire mode?

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 Post subject: Re: ATI Radeon CrossFireX compatibility list
 Post Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:11 pm 
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Bleh. I guess that I'm screwed. There is another section in the resource collective that repeats what was said in the post:

http://www.my630i.com/resources/issues.html#A4

So much for getting a top end system that is fully upgradable for the future. I think that this will be my last Dell.

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ATI 5830 1GB PCIe @ 865/1190 Mhz @ 86 C maxed
- limited to x8 and no CrossfireX (other 5830 sitting idle)
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 Post subject: Re: ATI Radeon CrossFireX compatibility list
 Post Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:46 pm 
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You brought up a good point--a note about CrossFireX should be given prominence in the new users note. It's been a while though; I'm wondering if anything has changed or if someone has found a workaround? Perhaps one of our gurus could comment? In any case, I'll keep an eye on this thread, and update the Resource Collective so that this (hopefully) won't catch anyone planning to go with CrossFireX off guard.

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 Post subject: Re: ATI Radeon CrossFireX compatibility list
 Post Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:04 pm 
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So I've got both 5830s in and power connected to both of them. They both load up in Windows as working properly. I've got the Crossfire cable connected just fine.

But when I go into CCC, there is no mention anywhere about Crossfire. Then under System Information it shows the cards as 'Primary Adapter' and 'Disabled Adapter'. Ugh! Neither shows up at disabled in Windows.

I've installed the Applications Profile app along with all of the other latest ATI drivers and followed the instructions on the Resource Collective.

Running 3dMark11, it shows as only 1 card in use and gives me the same exact score as when I run with 1 card installed.

Going to try the Dell drivers for the 4650 now...

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XPS 630 Stock nForce 650i Mobo w/ USB 2.0
- limited to 250 MB/s and Network limited to 100 MB/s
4 GB RAM @ 800 Mhz (1x4) - limited to 1066 Mhz
ATI 5830 1GB PCIe @ 865/1190 Mhz @ 86 C maxed
- limited to x8 and no CrossfireX (other 5830 sitting idle)
120 GB Patriot Pyro SSD - 320 GB Hitachi 7200 rpm HDD - limited to 2 TB
1 TB External USB 2.0 HDD
Creative X-FI PCI Sound Card
One non-functional PCI slot
One PCIe 1x 68 pin slot blocked by video card
One PCIe 1x 98 pin slot open
750 W stock PSU
Stock Dell Monitor with built in Webcam and powered USB hub
Stock Dell Keyboard with built in unpowered USB hub
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 Post subject: Re: ATI Radeon CrossFireX compatibility list
 Post Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:26 pm 
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Don't waste your time buddy. The video cards need a special Dell VBIOS to allow CrossfireX to be enabled on the stock board, as it uses an Nvidia chipset.

If you want Crossfire with ATI cards other than the 3xxx and 4xxx cards that Dell offered with these machines, you need to swap out your board.

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 Post subject: Re: ATI Radeon CrossFireX compatibility list
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Splaktar wrote:
Going to try the Dell drivers for the 4650 now...


No luck, it will install CCC but it doesn't even offer to install the video driver. I guess I'll give up and return the 2x 5770s. Then I'll run a 5830 and keep one as a backup.

I'll look into overclocking my CPU, upgrading to Win7 64, and installing a SSD to get a little bit more performance out of this thing. In another year or two, I'll just build my own unless I've switched over to Android completely.

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Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.4 Ghz - Stepping B Revision G0
XPS 630 Stock nForce 650i Mobo w/ USB 2.0
- limited to 250 MB/s and Network limited to 100 MB/s
4 GB RAM @ 800 Mhz (1x4) - limited to 1066 Mhz
ATI 5830 1GB PCIe @ 865/1190 Mhz @ 86 C maxed
- limited to x8 and no CrossfireX (other 5830 sitting idle)
120 GB Patriot Pyro SSD - 320 GB Hitachi 7200 rpm HDD - limited to 2 TB
1 TB External USB 2.0 HDD
Creative X-FI PCI Sound Card
One non-functional PCI slot
One PCIe 1x 68 pin slot blocked by video card
One PCIe 1x 98 pin slot open
750 W stock PSU
Stock Dell Monitor with built in Webcam and powered USB hub
Stock Dell Keyboard with built in unpowered USB hub
Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium


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