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 Post subject: graphics card replacement
 Post Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:27 pm 
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I've come here a bunch and have found a lot of great info, but now I feel stuck.

I would like to replace my ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series 1024MB. with something similar, but I can't figure out what might be nearly the same. Dell rep suggested this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 20gt%20640

This looks right to me, but I am not educated in hardware.

a. Would this be right or should I be looking for for something different?
b. if I was fantasy shopping and could add HDMI vid/aud out to go directly to my living room plasma, does anyone have a suggestion that may fall under $200 or so?

thank you

(if these specs are not enough, please let me know and I will try to find better information for you)

XPS 630i
BIOS Vendor Dell Inc
BIOS Version DELL - 42302e31
BIOS Date 05-05-09
Window Version Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate (32-bit)

Processor
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz
Clock Speed 3.1GHz
L2 Cahce Size 6144

Dual In-line Memory Module, 4GB, 4X1GB

Stock 630I power supply


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 Post subject: Re: graphics card replacement
 Post Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:48 pm 
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First of all, welcome to the forum!

The card Dell recommended may be relatively inexpensive, but it lacks any serious gaming power under the hood--what I can only assume you're looking for in a new card.

If you're willing to spend a little more ($239), this GTX 660 card from EVGA gets excellent reviews, will give you a significant increase in gaming performance (even more if you eventually upgrade your existing mobo and CPU), and has all the popular ports to boot (HDMI, DVI, and Displayport):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814130833

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 Post subject: Re: graphics card replacement
 Post Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:29 pm 
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Thank you gdonner.

I looked at the card and I like it. I primarily use it for watching movies on my plasma, but how can I turn my nose up at faster games. It's a little over my budget, but if it really is the best option I'll be calling newegg this weekend.

Are there any special instructions (ie i've done this a million time, remember to do _____first) or cleaning (ie drivers or even physical cleaning) i'll need to do before install?

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 Post subject: Re: graphics card replacement
 Post Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:06 am 
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That GT 640 the Dell rep suggested is worse in gaming performance than your ATI 4800 series (assuming a Radeon HD 4870 or better).

Go with Gregs recommendation on the GTX 660. :thumbup:

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 Post subject: Re: graphics card replacement
 Post Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:17 am 
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darthinzeo wrote:
Are there any special instructions (ie i've done this a million time, remember to do _____first) or cleaning (ie drivers or even physical cleaning) i'll need to do before install?


It would be a good idea to uninstall the old graphics card drivers before installing the new card. After you power down, install the new card, and boot up, you can install the new drivers.

You may want to use something like CCleaner (http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner) or Driver Sweeper (http://www.guru3d.com/content_page/guru ... eeper.html) after uninstalling the drivers, though this isn't absolutely necessary.

BTW, a good dusting inside your 630i with some compressed air would be a good idea while you have the cover off. :thumbup:

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 Post subject: Re: graphics card replacement
 Post Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:01 pm 
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:cool: thanks. placed my order and will update thread after (if) all goes well


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 Post subject: Re: graphics card replacement
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:24 am 
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I'm curious to hear how this goes. I'm also looking to upgrade my GPU. Partially because I'm concerned that Dell's "hacked-in" CrossfireX (for the Radeon HD4850s on my nVidia board) might be less-than-bulletproof.

My first concern for an original mobo is how much the card will be throttled by the slot specs. (I.e.: The card is PCIe 3.0 x16. The nForce 650i mobo can do 16 lanes if it's on a single card, but does the PCIe 3.0 make a difference? Edit: A little research suggests the PCIe 1.0 vs 3.0 doesn't make a tremendous impact at typical gaming resolutions..)

On another note - will it fit? I guess that's something I can wait for darthinzeo's report to find out.

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 Post subject: Re: graphics card replacement
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:55 am 
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Everything got put together with only the slightest of glitches.
a. Taking out old card = easy
b. putting in new GTX 660 = tight fit. on left side of card there is a paper thin margin between card and whatever round thing the corner almost butts agains.

New drivers:
a. deleting drivers = easy
b. installing new from cd = easy
c. updating drivers = easy
d. haven't touched NVIDA settings yet.

Working
a. everything seems fine.
b. games seem to work well.
c. second monitor working well
d. noticed nothing strange

What next?
a. what should I check to make sure everything is fine?
b. I really have no idea what ReverendTed is asking above.....

Thank you for the advice...if you have anymore I'd appreciate it.


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 Post subject: Re: graphics card replacement
 Post Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:11 am 
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From what our gurus have noted, a GTX 660-level (or higher) card will be bottlenecked by the bog-standard 630i mobo. Only one of the new generation mobos will be able to take full advantage of the speed increase the newer cards offer.

Even then, for the full speed increase, a new mobo supporting PCI 3.0 (e.g. Z77) would be a good idea.

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 Post subject: Re: graphics card replacement
 Post Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:03 am 
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I'm glad to hear it fits, because I'd already gone ahead an ordered one! It's supposed to arrive tomorrow.

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 Post subject: Re: graphics card replacement
 Post Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:45 am 
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Mine arrived, it's installed, and it's a tremendous improvement over the Radeon HD4850s in CrossfireX. I didn't have many games installed for benchmarking, so I used Sleeping Dogs. With the graphics settings set to "Extreme", the benchmark mode chugged along on the 4850s at anywhere from 1.5-7 FPS, averaging around 3.5. With the GTX 660 FTW, it averages 35-40. That might not be "fantastic" FPS, but it's absolutely playable, and again...that's on "Extreme", the highest graphical settings possible.

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3DMark06: 17488
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